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6am3 Fana71c · Dec 04, 2007, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by Esprit

n PvE Dervish's are supposed to be dealing damage, you sort of negate that by giving long cast times on support skills

Dervish shouldn't bring Mystic Regen anyway. I don't see the point of that skill other from farming. You said it yourself, you should deal damage, and leave healing to monks (or take Natural Healing)

Charr · Dec 04, 2007, 04:50 AM // 04:50

Mystic Regeneration is not so much overpowered as it is annoying, there is only one build I can think of where this skill is overpowered and that is Aura of the Lich + Infuse condition + Mystic regeneration build, in all other build this skill is more of annoyance that an actual problem.

Master Ketsu · Dec 04, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Mystic regen is not OP. The problem is other Regen skills are UP, so mystic looks over the top in comparison.

If anything, the other regen skills should be buffed to meet mystic's standard.

Dec 04, 2007, 05:41 AM // 05:41

I suggest make mystic regen remove all enchantments that are already on the user.

gone · Dec 04, 2007, 06:12 AM // 06:12

as I stated MONTHS ago..if MR is nerfed, all hex/degen needs to be nerfed.
and no, it doesn't even need be moved to mysticism. it is to useful(farming)to just kill it.

I can't believe that after all this time SOME(the thread Nec)people still think that 'OMGAWD MR is leik makin themm inVincibaal'

learn to shatter/strip enchantments, inflict conditions and hand out degen. that is where it's at.

Curse You · Dec 04, 2007, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by flubber

learn to shatter/strip enchantments, inflict conditions and hand out degen. that is where it's at.

Why not just use [wiki]Corrupt Enchantment[/wiki]? Saves you a good bit of casting.

Str0b0 · Dec 04, 2007, 06:19 AM // 06:19

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Originally Posted by Sniper22

Try taking down a minion master who only takes 12.5% dmg, cant take conditions, and has the 10 hp regen.... Even though u can try to counter it with massive enchantment removal... thinking of all the other nerfed skills that had counters... Ex: Jagged bones, ZB, Ether Renewal, Zealots Fire, etc... These skills were still overpowering even with counters.

Banishing strike FTW. Minions go buh bye MM is left with no DB and paper armor. Quick kill move on to the next target. I run a Banishing strike build in AB a lot just to kill MM's with a quickness.

gone · Dec 04, 2007, 06:20 AM // 06:20

@ curse You. pick your pill...there are many many many ways to deal death
some people just can't figure it out. lol

Vulkanyaz · Dec 04, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

I think it should just be left in Earth Prayers, as I really don't see a problem with it. >_>

ShadowbaneX · Dec 04, 2007, 06:41 AM // 06:41

AuraofMana · Dec 04, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14

Anything is overpowered if you are too stupid to see the counter to it.

Burning Blade · Dec 04, 2007, 07:30 AM // 07:30

I dont see MR is OP at all. Been AB quite a lot and never seen No/D or E/D can easily defeat enemy. Not sure about other types of PvP though

Sha Noran · Dec 04, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56

People who you can't kill only matter if they can also kill you while staying invincible. Fortunately, you can completely ignore most Mystic Regen tanks and it will never matter that they're not dead.

A Leprechaun · Dec 04, 2007, 11:18 AM // 11:18

Yeah I'd say move it to mysticism, I mean come on, it even has "mystic" in the name.

~A Leprechaun~

Fried Tech · Dec 04, 2007, 12:26 PM // 12:26

There is a way to sovle all of your ele/derv problems..... Rip Enchants skill of any kind. the end.

Seraphim of Chaos · Dec 04, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Getting frustrated in RA?

The nerve!

Zeek Aran · Dec 04, 2007, 01:01 PM // 13:01

I'd be really pissed if they ruined my 55 build because people whine about Earth Tanks in PvP. And that's all I have to say.

*cough distracting shot cough*

bungusmaximus · Dec 04, 2007, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Are these earth tanks even used in high end pvp? I doubt it, derv secondary means no utility after all. I usually see them in AB, but I wouldn' t call it imba there. poor eles will get sliced up by all the lolsins running around that place without some decent self heal (It also works on non-tanking eles). In TA knowledgable people don' t even use eles so much, they usually don' t fit in teh builds there. Do they use obsi tanks to farm guild lords or something? hard to believe :P.

If eles piss you off in AB you need interrupts or enchant hate, and you will need those anyway so it's not the case that eles FORCE you to spec against them.

gone · Dec 04, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun

Yeah I'd say move it to mysticism, I mean come on, it even has "mystic" in the name.

~A Leprechaun~

lol my rebuttal to this.

sure it has mystic in it's name, but why, then, does it make that crumbling earth sound when activated. I mean come on, it clearly was meant to be an earth prayer because of that. ;-p

MagmaRed · Dec 04, 2007, 02:55 PM // 14:55

Put a max on the number of enchantments it adds regen for. To make it really interesting, make that max scale with Mysticism.

0 Mysticism gives 3 enchantments for MR to supply regen on.
6 Mysticism gives 5 enchantments for MR to supply regen on.
12 Mysticism gives 6 enchantments for MR to suppy regen on.
16 Mysticism gives 9 enchantments for MR to supply regen on.

This would allow secondary classes to get +9 regen max (at 8 Earth Prayers), and allow primary Dervishes to get +36 (at 16 Mysticism and 13 Earth Prayers).